It was such a pleasure and joy to speak with you Lindsay! 💛 I am so grateful and honored to be apart of this space you have created to share stories like mine and others! Caregivers and creatives everywhere have so many important stories to tell, thank you for your kindly allowing me to share a piece of my story here💛
Superb interview. It also raised a lot of memory. I was a parish priest when my 3rd and 4th children were born -- with the 3rd the diocese were generous but with the 4th the diocesee I was in told me I wasn't technically employed (church pay a 'stipend') and so no law applied but they would ('generously') they said, give me 4 weeks off on pay after a C-section -- the man in his 50s delivering this news said that was surely more than enough. ... I found some very creative ways round, but this kind of pressure on mothers is horrible. Hannah has dealt with so much with such grace.
Hello Jan! Thank you truly for taking the time to share your story and experiences caregiving and the work you are/ we’re doing at the time, I am so grateful you took the time to listen to this discussion Lindsay and I had back in March as mothers and creatives across different parts of the world. It is both beautiful ( in the sense we all have shared experiences- good and bad) and sad how many struggles of motherhood are universal and how mothers have had to deal with the lack of empathy, care, and understanding and accessibility to resources such as support, healthcare or employer flexibility during their parent journey. I am so sorry you had to go through this experience, thank you for your kind words 💛
Isn't it so revealing that a man was telling you how much recovery time after a C-section (and with now two children to look after) would be ample? That makes my blood boil for you, Jan.
Absolutely -- this was my fourth C-section in under 8 years and we were home educating so the idea of recovering in 4 weeks would have been hilarious if it wasn't so serious. His reliance on the church being beyond employment law backfired on him, though as I could take 8 weeks sick off without even needing a sick note and saved a year of holidays -- I managed to cobble together 22 weeks with sick leave either side of holiday and the assistance of supportive colleagues.
It was such a pleasure and joy to speak with you Lindsay! 💛 I am so grateful and honored to be apart of this space you have created to share stories like mine and others! Caregivers and creatives everywhere have so many important stories to tell, thank you for your kindly allowing me to share a piece of my story here💛
Superb interview. It also raised a lot of memory. I was a parish priest when my 3rd and 4th children were born -- with the 3rd the diocese were generous but with the 4th the diocesee I was in told me I wasn't technically employed (church pay a 'stipend') and so no law applied but they would ('generously') they said, give me 4 weeks off on pay after a C-section -- the man in his 50s delivering this news said that was surely more than enough. ... I found some very creative ways round, but this kind of pressure on mothers is horrible. Hannah has dealt with so much with such grace.
Hello Jan! Thank you truly for taking the time to share your story and experiences caregiving and the work you are/ we’re doing at the time, I am so grateful you took the time to listen to this discussion Lindsay and I had back in March as mothers and creatives across different parts of the world. It is both beautiful ( in the sense we all have shared experiences- good and bad) and sad how many struggles of motherhood are universal and how mothers have had to deal with the lack of empathy, care, and understanding and accessibility to resources such as support, healthcare or employer flexibility during their parent journey. I am so sorry you had to go through this experience, thank you for your kind words 💛
Thank you Hannah
You are on a wonderful journey and love the grace of the space you are holding.
Isn't it so revealing that a man was telling you how much recovery time after a C-section (and with now two children to look after) would be ample? That makes my blood boil for you, Jan.
Absolutely -- this was my fourth C-section in under 8 years and we were home educating so the idea of recovering in 4 weeks would have been hilarious if it wasn't so serious. His reliance on the church being beyond employment law backfired on him, though as I could take 8 weeks sick off without even needing a sick note and saved a year of holidays -- I managed to cobble together 22 weeks with sick leave either side of holiday and the assistance of supportive colleagues.