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Hi friends,

We wanted to get this out to you ASAP so you can dig in over the weekend. This is the second part of our chat inspired by All Fours by Miranda July, which far more famous women than us implore you to read:

If anyone knows where I can get one of these…

We chat about reframing the narrative around peri and menopause; the seismic clash of life stages (anyone else been breastfeeding and simultaneously battling perimenopausal symptoms?); accepting and loving our midlife bodies and what it feels like to share that body with a new person in new midlife relationships. People who weren’t in our lives to see all the battle scars being formed.

We talk about leaning in to the messiness of midlife; fear of what’s going on inside our bodies; our relationship to our sexual bodies and how midlife offers us an opportunity to (re)discover who we are and what we like. This post from

was mentioned more than once in the chat:

Matriarchal Blessing
Do you not like sex or do you just not like patriarchal sex?
A few years ago my friend told me that she always assumed she was asexual because she couldn’t be less interested in sex. But then she got divorced and promptly discovered she is… very much not asexual and is very interested in sex…
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We dig into what it feels like to emerge from the oestrogen fug - what Dr. Susan Hardwick Smith calls the veil of oestrogen - and recognise that the mothering / caring part of us is evolving.

What can we / do we expect from grandmothers, too? The chat was on fire over maternal burnout and whether it breeds future generations of grandmothers who will be less available when there are (more) small people to take care of.

We talk about the conflicting information we’ve been told about testing for perimenopause and HRT and the complex landscape of women’s health generally, which can make it so hard to know what treatments to try to manage symptoms… Do we need to become our own doctor, too, as well as Jill-of-all-other-trades? One recommendation if you’re interested in going down a specific medical peri rabbit hole is The Menopause Brain by Dr. Louise Mosconi. And if you’re looking for a Substack to follow, I recommend

who writes The Vagenda. Over on Instagram, check out The Menopause Sisters, Dr. Mary Clare Havers and Dr. Stacy Sims.

Solo sex toys got a look-in, so head on over to this post from a few months back where you lot chipped in with your recommendations:

Oh, also. We’re all moving to the Vale of Oestrogen which we have decided is a bucolic resort somewhere on the beautiful south-east coast of Wales.

Catch you in the comments?

We’ll see you live on Wednesday 11th December for our next chat on (festive) rage. Tomorrow, I’ll be sharing the Zoom link and an appetite-whetter for Thursday 21st November’s LIVE session for the Membership with

on the I Ching so don’t miss that and feel free to upgrade right now by hitting this button:

Lindsay x

What Now? with Lindsay Johnstone
What Now? with Lindsay Johnstone – Audio and Video including every episode of Held in Mind: A Memoir
Here you'll find every episode of my memoir, Held in Mind. You'll also find video interviews with fellow creative caregivers, which forms The Cost of Caring Series, and occasional video and audio on the big (and small) stuff of midlife.
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